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  Suggested comment to add when answering at the meetings

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  inspired by the humour in cappytan's thread, i thought of a way those who are still forced to attend meetings can have some fun.... especially with the increase in articles with topics about "listen, obey and be blessed", a subtle method of having fun would be to substitute the expression "the governing body" wherever "jehovah" "jesus" is said.. imagine an answer such as this:.

  "yes, this paragraph helps us to see how vital it is to listen and obey the governing body".

  "yes, our strict obedience to the governing body is a way to show how much we love them".

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  "Even though we've seen that much of what was once taught by the faithful and discreet slave as the truth, has been changed, such as the now acceptable use of life saving blood fractions, this paragraph helps us to see how vital it is to Listen and Obey the governing body anyway, even if it could cost us our lives."
  
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  Preparing for Governing Body 3.0? Making older GB step down? (New September Watchtower)

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower, study edition, september 2015, "are you reaching the stature that belongs to christ?":.

  paragraph 6: the mature christian shows humility in that he recognizes that jehovahs ways and standards are always better than his own.

  [footnote: for example, older, experienced brothers may be asked to step aside from certain responsibilities and to lend support to younger brothers as they take on those responsibilities.].

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  Where did this new "high standard" regarding age, suddenly come from? "Jehovah" didn't seem to have an age limit for the last 100 years of the "organization".... why does he suddenly have one now.
  

  Seems to me since the very beginning, even the old GB members died in office.
  
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  Big eyes- jw's all excited about the movie

  by purrpurr in

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  2. friends

  for those still attending.

  have you seen an excitement go through the dubs about the tim burton film big eyes?

  they reckon it will give a "fine witness".. i've seen it and found it really irritating, basically margaret keane is such a timid mouse that she allows her husband to take all the credit for her work.

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  I remember when I was a kid back in the mid 60's and my Mom had some of her prints framed and hung them in my younger sisters room but took them down because people at the Hall were saying they were supposedly demonic....the eyes were creepy etc. It was hilarious to find out years later she was a JW. By then everyone had turned their sites on Smurfs and other more current horrors.
  
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  Great photo...needs your captions!

  by ToesUp in

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  Disfellowship, Disassociate, or fade. What would you do different.

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hindsight: .

  many times because of the shock of learning ttatt, a person loses it.

  you want to scream and tell the whole world that the watchtower is a big lie.

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  We faded, the only thing I'd do differently is I would have done it sooner, I wouldn't explain to, argue with or show anyone the reasons I decided to leave. They don't care or want to know and it can make you crazy trying to make them understand.

  The one other thing I might have liked to have done, is to make subtle comments at the meeting that show the irony of what is being said now compared to what was once called "the truth". It would have also been fun to leave copies of old magazine covers (see below) lying around at the Kingdom Hall, on car windshields, in the restroom etc...showing some of the past issues that made life changing claims that everybody trusted but ended being totally incorrect. Then sit back and watch the ensuing drama as the tried to ferret out the wicked apostate who is using their own literature against them.
  

  
  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  
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  Was it worth it?

  by John Aquila in

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  for those of you who left family and friends and had to start over from scratch just to get out of the organization, was it worth it?.

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  It's not a matter of was it worth it, It was more a matter of not being able to go on with it any longer until there was no longer any option. When you get to that point, anything is an improvement even if you do have to take some big hits in many areas, the biggest being the loss of your own personal history and the network of friends you had built up over the years.
  
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  "Make a list of people you want to meet in the New System!" (New September Watchtower)

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower september 2015 study edition, "stand firm in the faith," paragraphs 16 and 17:.

  following jesus example, we must read the bible daily, study it, and meditate on what we learn.

  along with general bible study, dig into topics about which you may have questions.. you can imitate jesus by meditating on the wonderful promises jehovah has made to you.

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  I'd like to meet my grandmother again but it won't be quite the same if she is as young and beautiful as she was in the photos of her when she was young. In fact, it will be downright weird.
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  What's the Worst Gossip You Heard About Why You were DF'ed, Faded or Left and Never Came Back? They say "I am gay!"

  by PhilsWager2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your going to enjoy the latest rumor i heard why i have not been to meeting for around nine months, i am a homosexual!

  i was caught having a drink at one of the gay bars for business, yes people still talk business in bars.

  revelation 17:4).and murderers, and fornicators (cf.

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  disillusioned 2a minute agoMy husband believes that anyone leaving does so because they can't live up to it not because they have stopped believing! He knows of course that I don't believe it but he can't come to terms with that.

  Most of the ones I know who stay with it do so not because they really believe it.....

  they do so because they think they SHOULD believe it.
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  New Watchtower-- the End is coming in our lifetime again now??

  by FusionTheism in

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  2. bible

  they just posted the simplified august study watchtower on jw.org.. paragraph 11 of the "expectation!

  " article says this:.

  "so even if we feel that we have been waiting a long time, this does not mean that the end is far away or that it is not coming in our lifetime.".

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  What's the Worst Gossip You Heard About Why You were DF'ed, Faded or Left and Never Came Back? They say "I am gay!"

  by PhilsWager2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your going to enjoy the latest rumor i heard why i have not been to meeting for around nine months, i am a homosexual!

  i was caught having a drink at one of the gay bars for business, yes people still talk business in bars.

  revelation 17:4).and murderers, and fornicators (cf.

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  I don't know of any gossip regarding why we faded but at one point there was a rumor being spread around about us after a sister asked us to raise her young daughter if anything were ever happen to her.

  We have two sons of our own and the rumor being spread was that my wife was pining for a daughter of her own but that I had a non reversible vasectomy and this sister asked us to raise her daughter because she felt so sorry form my wife. (P.S. I never had a vasectomy and we only planned to have 2 kids and were perfectly happy having boys) It was strange to think that people were walking around with this kind of personal misinformation about me.